and the news stating 'wounded', implying he was hit by a bullet.. sorry, he was injured - a bullet hitting where the cut was, would have taken off his head.. and as David Niven once said, bullets do not whizz.... And the timing of having a photographer right there.. By the way, that photograph, the American flag right behind him (right hand, upper side) - true or photoshopped?
Thank you - I hadn't seen it that close; I appreciate you correcting me. Do you know how they got it up so close to him in the photo of him fist pumping?
Right on, Russ. BTW, the shooter was also identified as someone who gave a donation to a progressive group in 2021.
I always follow my 48 hours rule during a crisis: watch TV coverage as much as possible, because witnesses are contacted before a possible coverup ensues.
The star witness so far is the guy who warned secret service and police that he saw the gunman climbing onto the [non-secured] roof with the rifle and pointed him out, saying "there"s a guy with a gun on the roof! " This witness was mystified why the snipers and police were slow to react. Me too. Another "terrible security breach"....acknowledged by security experts and press reports.
Needless to say, Trump has benefited enormously from this.
AND was a registered Republican. AND was bullied in HS and not allowed to join the gun club there because he was considered dangerously bad at shooting.
....& yet he hit pretty close to his head. Hmmm two other injured? My first thought was to wonder if the Secret Service didn't do that. I didn't think the shooter did it, but I've been waiting for more details. The Secret Service has refused to talk about it, so that just looks suspicious. Republicans are always up to no good, always obfuscating events like 9/11 and all that leads to is conspiracy theories & more questions. This is intentional so they can blame others. I'm sick of this nonsense.
there has been speculation that he wasn't hit by a bullet but by glass from the shattered teleprompter. but unlike Biden, who's health stats post Covid infection have been widely disseminated, there has been ZERO information about Trump's ER visit or the extent of his injuries. Just that idiotic looking bandage stuck to his head...
Because they are fascists. They literally have studied Nazi dogma to learn how to do it & implement fascism. They have a manifesto 2025 & agenda 47 that the media barely talks about because Trump got nicked with a piece of glass (not a bullet). The enablers should be shouted down & if the media is too precious to do it, then we will do it for them.
With respect, early reports that Trump was nicked by glass rather than a bullet have been fact-checked and found inaccurate. Details are at the link below.
You're welcome. As for MSM, one of the problems (I believe) is that politics is treated like a branch of showbusiness. Once it is designated trivial, objective truth and analysis don't matter - until the fantasy is hijacked by reality, by which time it's often too late for too many.
There are still like a dozen articles saying it was glass. Where did they get the info I wonder. They still talk about how bad a shot the guy was, but he couldn't have been that bad if he grazed his ear, which is kind of a freak shot.
More disturbing is that actual rally people had to tell the police that a guy is climbing up a building on a ladder & they acted all clueless. This is really weird. I have a lot of questions still.
As Jamil Al-Amin ( the former H. Rap Brown ) said in one of his best known speeches: “ violence is as American as cherry pie.”
And btw where were the Secret Service when RFK Sr was shot in 1968? Why hasn’t anyone shown the footage ? “ get the gun Rafer ( Rafer Johnson)”… granted, the shooter was like two feet from Bobby but come on- and where were the Secret Service in Dallas - were they in the convertible ? Wasn’t it Jackie who tried to shield her husband? Okay so I’m old! But the footage of all of these events plus Dr King and Malcolm X exist. Along with Walter Cronkite crying. Boy, times sure were different.
The only history I’ve heard on CNN was about Theodore Roosevelt who got shot and continued his speech. And of course Reagan was mentioned.
Seems that we experienced a lot worse, yet now we have to endure listening to it’s all the Dem’s fault.
Funny, we didn’t hear it was Dems or Repubs fault in those days.
Somehow I think those days were worse. Except maybe for Steve Bannon inciting his followers.
Oh they've taken many runs at that many times claiming Jackie did it, trying to blame LBJ. That's how you know rethugs were involved & the Secret Service was involved in both Kennedy assassinations. The CIA got their mitts on that film footage & messed with it to gas light people & first refused to allow anyone to see it then cut it to fit their narrative. The CIA (Bush, Dulles, Angelton, Hunt, Helms) were all in on JFK killing. Notice how a "leftist" got blamed for it all. Oswald may not have even fired that rifle that day at all, recent declassified records say he is unlikely the perpetrator & the Dallas police knew they had no evidence. The only ones being protected are republicans & they insult us by trying to blame Dems & someone they claim to be a communist. They intentionally confuse & obfuscate by putting operations within operations so people will focus away from the target. The lies Secret Service told about JFK to put blame on him are disgusting. This is what they do every single time. "JFK told the SS not to run alongside of the car, to take the bubble off the car, etc..." are all lies. JFK did not speak to the SS & give them orders.
I saw this coming a mile away, but the nerve of these corrupt fascist hacks to pull this!! Eric Trump just insinuated it again, while Katie Tur sat there smiling with no push back. I have not heard one person ask these jerks how a registered Republican kid that was bullied all his life = a Democrat. That's how clear the question should be asked. Eric Trump, Ron Johnson, et al need to explain themselves. They are trying to parlay this into an electoral win by blaming Dems. It's disgusting how they manipulate & bully the cowardly media. This will cause more violence, you are right.
For those wondering about it, the flag is not photoshopped. It can be seen in the long view photos, strung between 2 black poles behind the stage and screens. Each pole extends from some sort of high-reach apparatus.
When John F. Kennedy was shot and killed, I don't remember anyone labeling Lee Harvey Oswald as a Republican. Political parties didn't shoot Trump, a lone gunman did, with an accursed weapon of mass destruction. I know what and who to blame.
considering how IMMEDIATELY the Guns Over Party began blaming Democrats for the shooting, it's important now to note when a registered Republican tries to assassinate the presumptive Republican nominee...
Yes, but media doesn't ask the question & it's so simple. Why do you blame Dems when the kid who did it was a registered republican? Make that make sense.
Yes & naturally he was a registered republican. I'm now wondering if he actually gave $15 to a progressive thing. It would be just like them to make that up & the media to run with it.
The worst possible outcome would be a failed assassination of Donald Trump, wouldn’t it? All the negatives without any positive trade-offs at all.
I can’t help but think there’s a moral here. “Never use an AK-47 to attempt anything important. You’ll only hurt yourself and innocent people, if you do.”
Fox “News” is the American version of the Nazi propaganda rag, Volkische Beobachter.
and always has been...
and the news stating 'wounded', implying he was hit by a bullet.. sorry, he was injured - a bullet hitting where the cut was, would have taken off his head.. and as David Niven once said, bullets do not whizz.... And the timing of having a photographer right there.. By the way, that photograph, the American flag right behind him (right hand, upper side) - true or photoshopped?
With respect, the flag is not photoshopped, it is in long view photos.
I am pretty sure photoshopped - I didn't see where ANY flag was near him.
With respect, the flag is not photoshopped, it is in long view photos.
Thank you - I hadn't seen it that close; I appreciate you correcting me. Do you know how they got it up so close to him in the photo of him fist pumping?
I thought CNN was there. They could take a still of film, can't they?
I'm not a photographer, but the effect is probably due to camera settings such as depth of focus/field, also camera angle.
Right on, Russ. BTW, the shooter was also identified as someone who gave a donation to a progressive group in 2021.
I always follow my 48 hours rule during a crisis: watch TV coverage as much as possible, because witnesses are contacted before a possible coverup ensues.
The star witness so far is the guy who warned secret service and police that he saw the gunman climbing onto the [non-secured] roof with the rifle and pointed him out, saying "there"s a guy with a gun on the roof! " This witness was mystified why the snipers and police were slow to react. Me too. Another "terrible security breach"....acknowledged by security experts and press reports.
Needless to say, Trump has benefited enormously from this.
AND was a registered Republican. AND was bullied in HS and not allowed to join the gun club there because he was considered dangerously bad at shooting.
....& yet he hit pretty close to his head. Hmmm two other injured? My first thought was to wonder if the Secret Service didn't do that. I didn't think the shooter did it, but I've been waiting for more details. The Secret Service has refused to talk about it, so that just looks suspicious. Republicans are always up to no good, always obfuscating events like 9/11 and all that leads to is conspiracy theories & more questions. This is intentional so they can blame others. I'm sick of this nonsense.
there has been speculation that he wasn't hit by a bullet but by glass from the shattered teleprompter. but unlike Biden, who's health stats post Covid infection have been widely disseminated, there has been ZERO information about Trump's ER visit or the extent of his injuries. Just that idiotic looking bandage stuck to his head...
Twitter/X is also excellent for pre-empting possible coverup.
All of these rallies have looked very exposed.
I'm wondering how the venue was chosen, what advice was sought/given, and who had the final say in the decision.
Shooter was registered Republican.
Blaming the Democrats for the extreme political violence in this country is akin to blaming Jews for the crowded conditions at Auschwitz.
Because they are fascists. They literally have studied Nazi dogma to learn how to do it & implement fascism. They have a manifesto 2025 & agenda 47 that the media barely talks about because Trump got nicked with a piece of glass (not a bullet). The enablers should be shouted down & if the media is too precious to do it, then we will do it for them.
With respect, early reports that Trump was nicked by glass rather than a bullet have been fact-checked and found inaccurate. Details are at the link below.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bullet-glass-trump-wound/
Thanks for finding that. Well done.
You're welcome. As for MSM, one of the problems (I believe) is that politics is treated like a branch of showbusiness. Once it is designated trivial, objective truth and analysis don't matter - until the fantasy is hijacked by reality, by which time it's often too late for too many.
There are still like a dozen articles saying it was glass. Where did they get the info I wonder. They still talk about how bad a shot the guy was, but he couldn't have been that bad if he grazed his ear, which is kind of a freak shot.
More disturbing is that actual rally people had to tell the police that a guy is climbing up a building on a ladder & they acted all clueless. This is really weird. I have a lot of questions still.
As Jamil Al-Amin ( the former H. Rap Brown ) said in one of his best known speeches: “ violence is as American as cherry pie.”
And btw where were the Secret Service when RFK Sr was shot in 1968? Why hasn’t anyone shown the footage ? “ get the gun Rafer ( Rafer Johnson)”… granted, the shooter was like two feet from Bobby but come on- and where were the Secret Service in Dallas - were they in the convertible ? Wasn’t it Jackie who tried to shield her husband? Okay so I’m old! But the footage of all of these events plus Dr King and Malcolm X exist. Along with Walter Cronkite crying. Boy, times sure were different.
The only history I’ve heard on CNN was about Theodore Roosevelt who got shot and continued his speech. And of course Reagan was mentioned.
Seems that we experienced a lot worse, yet now we have to endure listening to it’s all the Dem’s fault.
Funny, we didn’t hear it was Dems or Repubs fault in those days.
Somehow I think those days were worse. Except maybe for Steve Bannon inciting his followers.
Oh they've taken many runs at that many times claiming Jackie did it, trying to blame LBJ. That's how you know rethugs were involved & the Secret Service was involved in both Kennedy assassinations. The CIA got their mitts on that film footage & messed with it to gas light people & first refused to allow anyone to see it then cut it to fit their narrative. The CIA (Bush, Dulles, Angelton, Hunt, Helms) were all in on JFK killing. Notice how a "leftist" got blamed for it all. Oswald may not have even fired that rifle that day at all, recent declassified records say he is unlikely the perpetrator & the Dallas police knew they had no evidence. The only ones being protected are republicans & they insult us by trying to blame Dems & someone they claim to be a communist. They intentionally confuse & obfuscate by putting operations within operations so people will focus away from the target. The lies Secret Service told about JFK to put blame on him are disgusting. This is what they do every single time. "JFK told the SS not to run alongside of the car, to take the bubble off the car, etc..." are all lies. JFK did not speak to the SS & give them orders.
It’s a sad metaphor for the whole election cycle. Tfg is a martyr but he’s only grazed by the many indictments, convictions and decisions.
Hi Peter, that’s what I emailed to my kids yesterday: worst outcome was survival and martyrdom posture.
Hadn’t thought to blame Biden. Should have, Pelosi is still being blamed for “ordering the execution” of sad Ms Babbit on Jan 6.
“Gun control” long a sad oxymoron with 310 million (m) privately owned today.
On balance my biggest disappointment is my diappointment Trump wasn’t killed
I saw this coming a mile away, but the nerve of these corrupt fascist hacks to pull this!! Eric Trump just insinuated it again, while Katie Tur sat there smiling with no push back. I have not heard one person ask these jerks how a registered Republican kid that was bullied all his life = a Democrat. That's how clear the question should be asked. Eric Trump, Ron Johnson, et al need to explain themselves. They are trying to parlay this into an electoral win by blaming Dems. It's disgusting how they manipulate & bully the cowardly media. This will cause more violence, you are right.
MAGA Dog Whistles: Learn to recognize the coded calls to Political Violence.
https://thedemlabs.org/2024/07/15/maga-dog-whistles-to-political-violence/
Assault Weapon Shootings To Gun Lobby Politicians blocking gun safety reforms: Follow The BLOOD MONEY TRAIL with this map.
https://thedemlabs.org/2024/07/15/assault-weapon-shootings-to-gun-lobby-politicians-follow-the-blood-money-trail/
For those wondering about it, the flag is not photoshopped. It can be seen in the long view photos, strung between 2 black poles behind the stage and screens. Each pole extends from some sort of high-reach apparatus.
When John F. Kennedy was shot and killed, I don't remember anyone labeling Lee Harvey Oswald as a Republican. Political parties didn't shoot Trump, a lone gunman did, with an accursed weapon of mass destruction. I know what and who to blame.
considering how IMMEDIATELY the Guns Over Party began blaming Democrats for the shooting, it's important now to note when a registered Republican tries to assassinate the presumptive Republican nominee...
Yes, but media doesn't ask the question & it's so simple. Why do you blame Dems when the kid who did it was a registered republican? Make that make sense.
Let's see if the NRA doubles down.
LoNe gUNmaN.
Yes & naturally he was a registered republican. I'm now wondering if he actually gave $15 to a progressive thing. It would be just like them to make that up & the media to run with it.
With respect, here's some detail on that.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-shooter-donation/
😢😡
The worst possible outcome would be a failed assassination of Donald Trump, wouldn’t it? All the negatives without any positive trade-offs at all.
I can’t help but think there’s a moral here. “Never use an AK-47 to attempt anything important. You’ll only hurt yourself and innocent people, if you do.”
I thought he used an AR-15.
I believe it wasn’t. The accounts I read said an AK-47. Now, I’m not sure. Maybe I need to look into this!
I’m seeing AR-15.
The closest I’ve come to that is a “AR-15 style” firearm, whatever that means.
Ok well I will make sure too.