The pharmacist who wrote that “we don’t get herd immunity from vaccines” must not have heard of smallpox or polio. It was the vaccines that made herd immunity, and I don’t understand the pharmacist not understanding that simple fact. I’m on your side, young man!
The conventional view of polio being only caused by a virus does not stand up to the scrutiny of some. Pesticides played a role. The book “ Turtles All The Way Down: vaccine science and myth “ includes
this. I don’t know your views but that book may challenge your views on vaccines. The initial Hebrew version came out in 2019 I believe just before Covid
My second husband had polio as a child, and he saw kids in iron lung machines. Actually I thought polio was a bacteria, not a virus, but I don’t care, I support vaccines. I understand how they work and I’m not afraid of them. What about smallpox, huh? I think the autism thing is coming from pesticides but neither one of us are scientists. We can only opine, we can’t know for sure. Of course I don’t trust pharmaceutical companies, but I trust science, and I used to work in Public Health. I worked with some real jerks, but I never met anybody who would lie to the public about something that really mattered. Of course they would lie that they’re not sleeping with the boss but that’s irrelevant.
Hey Russ, here’s what the former editor in chief of New England Journal of Medicine Marcia Angell says about “peer reviewed studies”.
Dr. Marcia Angell, a former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine, says “Disclosure is better than no disclosure, but it does not eliminate the conflict of interest.” I agree. The main worry about conflict of interest in research is that it tends to bias the research in favor of the company sponsoring that research; there is ample evidence for this.
Dr. Angell provides a sound argument for that concern. She explains that one way conflicts of interest hamper research is by suppressing negative results. Researchers are not required to publish the results of research in which, say, a pharmaceutical company’s drug does not show efficacy. She writes that one review “found that 37 of 38 positive studies—that is, studies that showed that a drug was effective—were published. But 33 of 36 negative studies were either not published or published in a form that conveyed a positive outcome.”
Great work, as usual, Russ. I very much enjoyed your pointed comments to your critics. At age 80 I am looking up to you for being so sharp for an older guy.
Yet, this may well be seen as the relative calm before the storm. Generative AI seems likely to supercharge misinformation, disinformation, and mistrust. It will surely be interesting as successful human societies (especially modern, techno-centric societies) depend on trust to function.
Russ, you are citing CDC “studies” as your source for RFK’s “dangerous views on vaccines”. CDC is a for profit corporation with GIGANTIC CONFLICTS OF INTEREST!! Why do you think conflicts of interest are felonies in the US?? Are you THAT blind? I don’t think you are that blind and you know exactly why conflicts of interest are especially horrifying in the field of medicine. Who has more incentive to lie about vaccines??RFK or CDC?? Who profits from vaccines?? What does RFK have to gain by taking on Big Pharma and it’s unwitting useful idiot? (you).
I loved your "Family of Secrets"--read it twice--it was jam-packed with facts and they did not always fit together and the cohesive whole at the end was loose.
RFK Jr's book The Real Anthony Fauci was similarly chock full of facts, not always ending in a definite conclusion. The structure of your books is very similar--I suggest you read his.
I am a vaccine expert (wrote the first review article on anthrax vaccine, 6 Congressional testimonies) and would be delighted to debate you with or without RFK regarding the facts on vaccines, in public or simply to help educate you on the subject privately, Russ, because I knnow you are someone who craves the facts.
Here's another one, you write "the venerated New England Journal of Medicine, reported". It would be silly to venerate a journal or to blindly trust on its review!
A rather good overview can be found here: https://c19ivm.org/meta.html , with a huge amount of invalidating criticism (extreme COI, impossible data, blinding failure, randomization failure, uncorrected errors, protocol violations, no response from authors, refusal to release data ) about that particular study: https://c19ivm.org/togetherivm.html
What I didn't see mentioned there, it strikes me that the article starts with "Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days". As the average viral infection period is ending around 5 days, how can the antiviral properties seriously be tested with such a protocol? Antiviral treatment should be started within 3 days.
Russ, I do believe something is terribly wrong with Robert Kennedy, Jr. He was a partner in a local law firm for a time, but that apparently didn't work out. I wonder whether it was something like this that caused him to leave. I can't see him as presidential material, given his odd views on the COVID vaccine and his strange defense of Tucker Carlson. I think he must be mentally ill.
Mental illness?? The COVID injections obliterated members of my family. I have family members suffering from myocarditis, Bels palsy and encephalitis....ONE FAMILY!! The illnesses were immediate and suffered on the days they received their shots! My cousin with encephalitis passed away 3 days ago!! I know quite a few people that have been injured by the shots. Are they mentally I’ll as well?
Mr. Baker: Your evaluation of the conclusions reached by those analyzing the released (and partially redacted) Pfizer documents? Per Ms. Wolf: "I oversee, w COO Amy Kelly, 3500 medical and scientific experts: highly published physicians, RNs, biostatisticians, medical fraud investigators, lab clinicians, biologists. The reports are their work, not mine. I share what is in them." https://twitter.com/naomirwolf . And: I personally am aware of, "in my circle", a significant number of adverse reactions, some causing death, others permanent disabilities, others disabilities that might be permanent--to those who "opted in" on the modified mRNA shots (or were coerced, i.e., forced, to take them to keep their jobs). Your recent figure of 1 in 10,000 is...in my opinion far, far off the mark.
I further welcome your thoughts about Pfizer's request, denied by Federal District Court judge Pittman, to have 75 years to release the aforementioned documents? But somehow, I have a feeling you will not respond. Do please prove me wrong.
Supposedly RFK told the autopsy doctors at Bethesda to not explore JFK's throat. Allegedly RFK wanted to keep JFK's Addison's disease private. So the story goes. Or maybe the Bethesda doctors wanted to hide the fact that the throat shot came from the front and first went through the windshield (Evalea Glanges, George Whitaker, Stavis Ellis) which proves the lone gunman story is a big lie. Now in 2023, RFK Jr. or his mother Ethel might be able to resolve the question of whether or not Bobby Kennedy told the doctors to stay away from examining his brother's throat. JFK left Parkland with less than a half-inch slit in his throat for the breathing tube, but once Dr. Humes was done fishing around to take out the bullet that proved a frontal shot, JFK's throat hole had been enlarged four-fold or more.
Vaccines have saved so many lives especially children’s vaccines. Death from childhood diseases dropped to almost nothing. I lost 4 to Covid, none of them were vaccinated. For this reason alone I wouldn’t vote for him. I am a Democrat, I believe a lot of people feel the same way. The gamble is to big.
Fr, can Russ publicly debate Steve Kirsch, for the million dollars or whatever he’s offering? Or Pierre Kory (...if Russ is over here actually, non-ironically citing the NEJM re: ivermectin, as if we didn’t make it past page 14 in RFK’s book)
These are sad times, Mr. Baker, when demagogues make take full advantage of ignorance. There is something lacking in today's education (well, perhaps, not just that of today), in understanding logic and implication, not to mention the scientific approach. The question is what to do to remedy this (and will it be allowed). At one time, I would have said "Fine, be ignorant..." but now, the those who take the ignorant view will do all they can to compel one to be the same - did we not see this in passed history, in the rise of Hitler, in the times of Lenin, pre-Civil War? Please continue your work.
Hi Russ, I do think that RFK Jr may be overly sensitive about vaccines as a result of defending vaccine injured clients for many years, and just as most people, not always accurate. However, I found that he is mostly right. Immediately after writing about "their own preferred statistics — without credible evidence that theirs are right", you referred to a political (non neutral) statistics article of your liking, and which echo's government propaganda (and uncensored scientists).
First of all, that whole discussion is misleading: if you want to determine if many lives were saved, we're really talking risk/benefit - so the essential statistics to look at is not Covid-mortality but all-cause mortality. That's quite a different discussion, but even there, "those states having the higher vaccination rates showing a moderately lower excess mortality" - but some graphs make it appear that vaccines even protect against car accidents! In general, such graphs easily induce viewers to draw faulty cause-effect conclusions.
Russ, would you be willing to debate RFK, Jr, or Steve Kirsch on Covid vaccines? Or on vaccine safety in general?
The pharmacist who wrote that “we don’t get herd immunity from vaccines” must not have heard of smallpox or polio. It was the vaccines that made herd immunity, and I don’t understand the pharmacist not understanding that simple fact. I’m on your side, young man!
The conventional view of polio being only caused by a virus does not stand up to the scrutiny of some. Pesticides played a role. The book “ Turtles All The Way Down: vaccine science and myth “ includes
this. I don’t know your views but that book may challenge your views on vaccines. The initial Hebrew version came out in 2019 I believe just before Covid
My second husband had polio as a child, and he saw kids in iron lung machines. Actually I thought polio was a bacteria, not a virus, but I don’t care, I support vaccines. I understand how they work and I’m not afraid of them. What about smallpox, huh? I think the autism thing is coming from pesticides but neither one of us are scientists. We can only opine, we can’t know for sure. Of course I don’t trust pharmaceutical companies, but I trust science, and I used to work in Public Health. I worked with some real jerks, but I never met anybody who would lie to the public about something that really mattered. Of course they would lie that they’re not sleeping with the boss but that’s irrelevant.
Hey Russ, here’s what the former editor in chief of New England Journal of Medicine Marcia Angell says about “peer reviewed studies”.
Dr. Marcia Angell, a former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine, says “Disclosure is better than no disclosure, but it does not eliminate the conflict of interest.” I agree. The main worry about conflict of interest in research is that it tends to bias the research in favor of the company sponsoring that research; there is ample evidence for this.
Dr. Angell provides a sound argument for that concern. She explains that one way conflicts of interest hamper research is by suppressing negative results. Researchers are not required to publish the results of research in which, say, a pharmaceutical company’s drug does not show efficacy. She writes that one review “found that 37 of 38 positive studies—that is, studies that showed that a drug was effective—were published. But 33 of 36 negative studies were either not published or published in a form that conveyed a positive outcome.”
Great work, as usual, Russ. I very much enjoyed your pointed comments to your critics. At age 80 I am looking up to you for being so sharp for an older guy.
Yet, this may well be seen as the relative calm before the storm. Generative AI seems likely to supercharge misinformation, disinformation, and mistrust. It will surely be interesting as successful human societies (especially modern, techno-centric societies) depend on trust to function.
Russ, you are citing CDC “studies” as your source for RFK’s “dangerous views on vaccines”. CDC is a for profit corporation with GIGANTIC CONFLICTS OF INTEREST!! Why do you think conflicts of interest are felonies in the US?? Are you THAT blind? I don’t think you are that blind and you know exactly why conflicts of interest are especially horrifying in the field of medicine. Who has more incentive to lie about vaccines??RFK or CDC?? Who profits from vaccines?? What does RFK have to gain by taking on Big Pharma and it’s unwitting useful idiot? (you).
I loved your "Family of Secrets"--read it twice--it was jam-packed with facts and they did not always fit together and the cohesive whole at the end was loose.
RFK Jr's book The Real Anthony Fauci was similarly chock full of facts, not always ending in a definite conclusion. The structure of your books is very similar--I suggest you read his.
I am a vaccine expert (wrote the first review article on anthrax vaccine, 6 Congressional testimonies) and would be delighted to debate you with or without RFK regarding the facts on vaccines, in public or simply to help educate you on the subject privately, Russ, because I knnow you are someone who craves the facts.
Here's another one, you write "the venerated New England Journal of Medicine, reported". It would be silly to venerate a journal or to blindly trust on its review!
A rather good overview can be found here: https://c19ivm.org/meta.html , with a huge amount of invalidating criticism (extreme COI, impossible data, blinding failure, randomization failure, uncorrected errors, protocol violations, no response from authors, refusal to release data ) about that particular study: https://c19ivm.org/togetherivm.html
What I didn't see mentioned there, it strikes me that the article starts with "Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days". As the average viral infection period is ending around 5 days, how can the antiviral properties seriously be tested with such a protocol? Antiviral treatment should be started within 3 days.
Russ, I do believe something is terribly wrong with Robert Kennedy, Jr. He was a partner in a local law firm for a time, but that apparently didn't work out. I wonder whether it was something like this that caused him to leave. I can't see him as presidential material, given his odd views on the COVID vaccine and his strange defense of Tucker Carlson. I think he must be mentally ill.
Mental illness?? The COVID injections obliterated members of my family. I have family members suffering from myocarditis, Bels palsy and encephalitis....ONE FAMILY!! The illnesses were immediate and suffered on the days they received their shots! My cousin with encephalitis passed away 3 days ago!! I know quite a few people that have been injured by the shots. Are they mentally I’ll as well?
Mr. Baker!
You could also point out that the autism kerfuffle was initiated by a since withdrawn study published in a med. journal.
Mr. Baker: Your evaluation of the conclusions reached by those analyzing the released (and partially redacted) Pfizer documents? Per Ms. Wolf: "I oversee, w COO Amy Kelly, 3500 medical and scientific experts: highly published physicians, RNs, biostatisticians, medical fraud investigators, lab clinicians, biologists. The reports are their work, not mine. I share what is in them." https://twitter.com/naomirwolf . And: I personally am aware of, "in my circle", a significant number of adverse reactions, some causing death, others permanent disabilities, others disabilities that might be permanent--to those who "opted in" on the modified mRNA shots (or were coerced, i.e., forced, to take them to keep their jobs). Your recent figure of 1 in 10,000 is...in my opinion far, far off the mark.
I further welcome your thoughts about Pfizer's request, denied by Federal District Court judge Pittman, to have 75 years to release the aforementioned documents? But somehow, I have a feeling you will not respond. Do please prove me wrong.
opinions trump facts?
Supposedly RFK told the autopsy doctors at Bethesda to not explore JFK's throat. Allegedly RFK wanted to keep JFK's Addison's disease private. So the story goes. Or maybe the Bethesda doctors wanted to hide the fact that the throat shot came from the front and first went through the windshield (Evalea Glanges, George Whitaker, Stavis Ellis) which proves the lone gunman story is a big lie. Now in 2023, RFK Jr. or his mother Ethel might be able to resolve the question of whether or not Bobby Kennedy told the doctors to stay away from examining his brother's throat. JFK left Parkland with less than a half-inch slit in his throat for the breathing tube, but once Dr. Humes was done fishing around to take out the bullet that proved a frontal shot, JFK's throat hole had been enlarged four-fold or more.
Vaccines have saved so many lives especially children’s vaccines. Death from childhood diseases dropped to almost nothing. I lost 4 to Covid, none of them were vaccinated. For this reason alone I wouldn’t vote for him. I am a Democrat, I believe a lot of people feel the same way. The gamble is to big.
Fr, can Russ publicly debate Steve Kirsch, for the million dollars or whatever he’s offering? Or Pierre Kory (...if Russ is over here actually, non-ironically citing the NEJM re: ivermectin, as if we didn’t make it past page 14 in RFK’s book)
These are sad times, Mr. Baker, when demagogues make take full advantage of ignorance. There is something lacking in today's education (well, perhaps, not just that of today), in understanding logic and implication, not to mention the scientific approach. The question is what to do to remedy this (and will it be allowed). At one time, I would have said "Fine, be ignorant..." but now, the those who take the ignorant view will do all they can to compel one to be the same - did we not see this in passed history, in the rise of Hitler, in the times of Lenin, pre-Civil War? Please continue your work.
Hi Russ, I do think that RFK Jr may be overly sensitive about vaccines as a result of defending vaccine injured clients for many years, and just as most people, not always accurate. However, I found that he is mostly right. Immediately after writing about "their own preferred statistics — without credible evidence that theirs are right", you referred to a political (non neutral) statistics article of your liking, and which echo's government propaganda (and uncensored scientists).
First of all, that whole discussion is misleading: if you want to determine if many lives were saved, we're really talking risk/benefit - so the essential statistics to look at is not Covid-mortality but all-cause mortality. That's quite a different discussion, but even there, "those states having the higher vaccination rates showing a moderately lower excess mortality" - but some graphs make it appear that vaccines even protect against car accidents! In general, such graphs easily induce viewers to draw faulty cause-effect conclusions.
Here's a good analysis and lesson by a statistics teacher (the essential part starts at 22:18): https://rumble.com/v24j5e8-understanding-statistics-during-covids-metamorphosis-episode-1.html
Related articles on his Substack here:
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/reanalysis-of-the-society-of-actuaries
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/evidence-of-the-hub-and-the-zero